Shi fu: “I won’t let you destroy his legacy” Kai: “why not, he destroyed mine?”
What I love is that Kai's hunger for Chi is essentially an addiction. It doesn't matter if he exhausts the resource he needs to get Chi, he just needs it.
"Kai didn't turn bad, Oogway turned good." - Someone more enlightened in KFP lore than me
Everyone seems to ignore the fact kai never turned bad. Oogway turned good.
I think the reason why Kai became the way he is is because oogway was actually one evil bastard himself before. Then after the pandas saved his life he decided to put down his weapons and become a monk. Kai who only saw the “war version “ of oogway didn’t like the idea and thus felt betrayed
Fun fact: I heard somewhere a while ago that the 3rd Kung Fu Panda was actually going to be WAY more brutal than our current version. But due to complaints from parents on the 2nd film, they backed down on the brutality, which sadly made people think that it was the worst of the 3. But now that there's a 4th movie that is way worse, I hope people realize that the 3rd movie was still pretty good.
Kai is underrated and has one of the best theme songs and JK Simmons puts all his voice into his characterization! I wish they could explored more of his past/relationship with him and Oogway a bit. He may not be good as Shen or Tai Lung, but he is not as bad as some people portray him to be.
The appreciation for Kai has skyrocketed since kung fu panda 4.
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I kind of like the theory that oogway was the one that changed not kai. The fact the 2 were tyrant warriors but oogway changed his ways for peace instead of continuing the violence
I think the main problem with Kai isn't Kai himself, but the fact they make a gag out of no one knowing who he is, it turns his introduction from menacing to funny and thus far more light hearted than the introduction of Tai Lung or Lord Shen
I like Kai. He's my favorite KFP villain because of his lust for power and his strength and attitude. He's the only villain who gives respect to Po and was the nearest to defeat him.
Okay, i want to get some things straight, also because the third film is my favorite. Kai is not an evil character just for the sake of evilness, his background is all about vengeance. This all began when Oogway was healed by the pandas, as before that, Oogway could also have been considered an evil character. As mentioned, Oogway and Kai considered each other brothers in arms, but because Oogway left that life of war after being healed, Kai felt betrayed by him, as he felt as if he‘d lost his brother. In trying to regain that important person, he tried to get stronger by consuming others’ chi, as he had feared Oogway would consider him weak, and that that was the reason for him leaving Kai‘s side. The final mortal fight between Oogway and Kai was the moment Kai realized he could never reach the strength of Oogway, which was a thought that spread so much fear in him, that he wanted to prove Oogway wrong. As we know, he failed in doing so, and because he felt so betrayed, lost, weak and exposed that he swore to prove his superiority. With the years, his power grew, and with it his hate against Oogway. Because of that, after he returned to the mortal realm, and because of his hatred against Oogway and chi itself, he wanted to destroy everything Oogway had ever created and take all chi to himself, trying to prove his worth not to Oogway or the world, but simply to himself. So yes, while he is an evil character, i think he is still deeply misunderstood, not in that he isn‘t evil, but that he isn‘t an evil person. Thats btw also a large aspect, i think, because while in the beginning he only wanted to match Oogway‘s strength, everyone saw him as an evil person, which might‘ve caused him to get exactly what everyone saw in him. Some deeper explanations, for which i don’t have evidence but which would make sense in my opinion, are: He might not‘ve been able to learn chi for himself, for some reason, which might‘ve caused him to search for other ways in the first place, as he, again, felt exposed of his weaknesses. Kai might‘ve developed some kind of addiction to stealing chi (as we don’t know what it causes in people), which could be another explanation for him continuing after reaching his original goal of overcoming Oogway.
I’m so happy to find literally anyone who enjoys this third movie. I don’t particularly think that the third movie was better than the second or first. But I’m sure that it’s still a great movie with an incredible villain.
I think that you have made a mistake. In the first part of the movie, when Kai was battling Oogway, he didn't have the chi of master crocodile and master storming ox at all. He gained their chi later along with mantis and crane. Also, I think that Kai wanted to erase all of Oogway's memories by taking the chi of all of his living students, not just to get powerful.😅
Oogway’s betrayal, which I talked about in Schaffrillas’s video on KFP 3 was a theory of interest. I always saw it as this: Oogway began to mellow out and became more humble with his teaching/learning of chi from the pandas. While Kai was grateful for them for healing his friend, but the power of chi pondered his mind. Chi was the life force of all living beings, as shown by Oogway and the pandas. In his eyes, chi was power, power that he lacked… power that was unable to protect his friend. Kai would also learn chi, but unlike his brother and the pandas, he learned to rob the chi from others and use it to empower himself (how he’s able to create the jombies is up to debate, maybe he figured it out while in the Spirit Realm) With Kai’s new found worldview and appetite for power, Oogway saw that his brother was falling down a dark path, and as much as it hurt him… Kai had to be stopped. Even when Oogway bested him, it filled him with sorrow… he was forced to fight against his brother and seal him away.
Honestly I always enjoyed Kai. He had a simple motive at first glance but his unrelenting greed and dangerous presence made him a villain I enjoyed. Personally I’d say he’s the most powerful Kung Fu Panda villain
Kai took multiple pages out of Kratos book
Kai treated like a joke by master shifu is definitely where his momentum fell. While I absolutely love humour in KFP3, Kai getting roasted by oogway,the five and Po doesn't help in elevating his villianism like that of Tai Lung. Had Kai's backstory got just some more context (or) made some atrocities similar to Shen,the third edition would have been much better.
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