@geoffreyrichards6079
A common criticism some people say is that Zootopia would’ve worked better if it didn’t have a villain, which overlooks the fact that the plot’s mystery all stems from a criminal mastermind. So instead of ditching Bellwether, I think it would’ve been far more satisfying to give her a slightly more prominent minor role in the story - have her be the secret devil on Judy’s shoulder playing into her insecurities and sewing the seeds of prejudice throughout the storyline. That way, her true-face reveal towards the end doesn’t feel so slapped on.
@matlock26th
While I agree that Bellweather should have had more screen time, Preminger from Barbie as the Princess and the Pauper has only six minutes of screen time and he’s a very beloved character for those of us that grew up with the Barbie movies. The difference is how they distributed and used those six minutes.
@someGuy-kl7cb
The fact plankton is a more intimidating villain compared to these guys should tell you all you need to know about them. And that’s a villain you can simply squish to beat.
@1q2w3e4r404
A good way for the hero to learn the villain's plan is by overhearing the villain explaining it to their lackeys and from there you have two options. The villain can be so far ahead in the plan that the hero has to run away to warn his friends or the villain discovers them and the hero has to fight his way out.
@Tasoq
The mention of a monologuing villain reminded me of The Incredibles and Syndrome. "You sly dog! You got me monologuing!"
@angelpear219
Sequels done right is definitely How To Train Your Dragon. Tension, comedy, actions and consequences, love, injuries, death, tear-jerking, all gorgeous scenery and music
@wak773
you know, shen also had a generic rule the world goal but at least HE kept my attention.
@EGRJ
Zootopia is a detective /noir story. So, hidden villain who's been pulling the strings makes a lot of sense, because a lot of the plot is just about trying to figure out what's really going on in the first place. You're supposed to look back at the plot and try to find hints. And narratively, it wouldn't make sense for the heroes to find the hidden lab, and then do some more investigating to find the mastemind. Securing the lab was a win already, but they can only really win if they get away. Bellwether showing up means they've disrupted her plans so much she has to Assume Direct Control of the operation. Which shows her hand. And she ends up defeated by the same people she manipulated, and one of the predators she hated.
@michaelhayes8519
Ozai will forever be an unmatched villain, his writing is nearly perfect in every way. The 1st show of his evil was a remote village, where its revealed only the elderly and children live. Everyone else went off to fight. His forces, the fire nation is taken very seriously, its shown right away that even the possibility of them coming sets a grimm tone. Our 1st visual of their evil is a lone warship stranded in ice, successfully taken by the village who won't dare go near it. Its made very clear that even the victories against them are a cause for concern, not celebration. We are told and shown the effects of his evil on the world when we are introduced to the main character, the sole survivor of a genocide caused by his force's. We are slowly introduced to this rich world through the eyes of our main character, and we slowly learn just how much has changed for the worse in his absence. To say the setting starts off bleak is an understatement, the main character is literally a 12 year old and the villain is a 45 year old warrior monarch, who's nearly conquered the globe. To say he was a well written villain is an understatement, they don't reveal him until season 3 yet his presence is known from the very beginning. Thats later backed up with every scene featuring Ozai being serious, life or death, in a show thats normally light hearted.
@kinggrass689
I don’t think anything will ever be worse than “Somehow Palpatine returned”
@RandoSando.
If you think bellweather is bad, wait until you learn about the original plot for zootopia. We were fucking robbed because disney execs didn't think kids could handle such a dark story. The same company that showed Mufasa dying on screen and Clayton's hanging shadow.
@jazminetoad
13:40 counter point, it is not because she chose to hurt a bear, it is how The Chameleon hurt the bear. Yes, she shapeshifted into a giant elephant, but she just lightly pushed a bear down the stairs. If she had harshly sent him flying down the stairs, or better yet, grabbed the bear with the elephant trunk and thrown him far down the stairs, that would've been more terrifying. Yes she displayed her power in front of the mafia but she didn't show how wide the gap the power imbalance is, she needed to show there is no hope of the other overpowering her, a mere brush to make someone roll down a flight of stairs wasn't enough after her entrance in the mafia meeting, it was anti-climatic
@eddie103
I know bellwether was a joke of a villain, but I’d argue that Zootopia was still a good movie.
@KittyKatt_Luna80s
Mentioning Bellwether: if you were a farmer, you'd know a Bellwether is the leading female sheep in a flock. You then notice "Doug" on Bellwether's desk - the main Ram villain. The hints are extremely subtle.
@CalebBauer-p4w
"Somehow, I manage to find cover and what does Baron von Ruthless do?" "He starts monologuing" "HE STARTS MONOLOGUING! He starts, like, this prepared speech about how feeble I am compared to him, how INEEEEVITABLE my defeat is, how the world WILL SOON BE HIS, yada, yada, yada. YAMMERING! I mean, the guy has me on a platter, and he won't shut up!"
@Flame-rp6yq
This is why I love Lord Shen From his first appearance of being utterly nonchalant but still having his words DRIPPING with malice and the eagerness of someone who has been waiting for YEARS "Oh this? It's your parting gift, in that it will part you, ah yes, a part of here, there, and waaaaaay over there STAINING THE WALL!"
@rogercunillera7469
Honestly i feel like Jafar is a great example of how beating an unbeattable foe. By the end of the movie he has it all; the genie on his side, the soldiers under his command and is the strongest magical caster in the world. There shouldnt be away for Aladdin to beat him, but he did by outsmarting him, once Al made Jafar realize he is the most powerful sorcerer but not the most powerful magic weilding being; the geniee is. In realizing this, Jafar uses its last wish to become a geniee which ended up being his downfall
@MyStickWorld
My favorite kind of villains are the those which are often silent and even look either angry beyond words or completely a shell of something. Unmoved, dispassionate, untalkative outside small words. Giving that sense that even if they succeed in what they do, it feels like not even they have the capacity to appreciate it. A blunt instrument of violence, despair, and death through actions, like a mindless force of nature you cannot truly grasp or understand the depths of their motivations. Not an animal or beast, just something bereft of humanity.
@lisag1100
“He suffers from a serious case of Frenchness. His DNA is allergic to winning” My goodness, you roasted both the villain and all French people 😂
@crystalheart9108